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	<title>Comments on: MySQL:  ibdata files do not shrink on database deletion [innodb]</title>
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		<title>By: Starting Gate Solutions</title>
		<link>http://crazytoon.com/2007/04/03/mysql-ibdata-files-do-not-shrink-on-database-deletion-innodb/comment-page-1/#comment-1038</link>
		<dc:creator>Starting Gate Solutions</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 05:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just delete all your ib* files (after you backup of course) then restart and you&#039;ll be good</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just delete all your ib* files (after you backup of course) then restart and you&#8217;ll be good</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Schmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 00:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has me looking at postgresql</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has me looking at postgresql</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Schmidt</title>
		<link>http://crazytoon.com/2007/04/03/mysql-ibdata-files-do-not-shrink-on-database-deletion-innodb/comment-page-1/#comment-1020</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Schmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2011 00:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another way -- kind of sketchy, but it works for me YMMV.

Change all the table types to myisam

Verify there are no innodb tables left. 

turn of innodb with skip-innodb

remove innodb files

turn innodb back on 

Change table types back to innodb

It is a real mess, but can be done on a working server with a short term risk due to the lack of ACID ..

This has me looking at</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another way &#8212; kind of sketchy, but it works for me YMMV.</p>
<p>Change all the table types to myisam</p>
<p>Verify there are no innodb tables left. </p>
<p>turn of innodb with skip-innodb</p>
<p>remove innodb files</p>
<p>turn innodb back on </p>
<p>Change table types back to innodb</p>
<p>It is a real mess, but can be done on a working server with a short term risk due to the lack of ACID ..</p>
<p>This has me looking at</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Frattola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco Frattola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about performances?
Is there any (public) comparison ?

tnx in advance
marco f.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about performances?<br />
Is there any (public) comparison ?</p>
<p>tnx in advance<br />
marco f.</p>
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		<title>By: MySQL: ibdata files do not shrink on database deletion [innodb] &#124; Technology: Learn and Share &#171; Tech Notes of Kevin Duane</title>
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		<dc:creator>MySQL: ibdata files do not shrink on database deletion [innodb] &#124; Technology: Learn and Share &#171; Tech Notes of Kevin Duane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ibdata1 has grown to nearly 1GB. I need some solid advice here. - cPanel Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>ibdata1 has grown to nearly 1GB. I need some solid advice here. - cPanel Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 10:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I found a basic step-by-step for taking care of this here: MySQL: ibdata files do not shrink on database deletion [innodb] &#124; Technology: Learn and Share  And at some other forums I also found that it is probably safe to move and symlink ibdata1, but it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I found a basic step-by-step for taking care of this here: MySQL: ibdata files do not shrink on database deletion [innodb] | Technology: Learn and Share  And at some other forums I also found that it is probably safe to move and symlink ibdata1, but it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I follow all the instructions: I have now the database directory with .idb files, but... I still have the idbdata1 big and growing, now is about 5 time the data. How is it possible that exists both idbdata1 and *.idb files, working together?
REgards,
JS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I follow all the instructions: I have now the database directory with .idb files, but&#8230; I still have the idbdata1 big and growing, now is about 5 time the data. How is it possible that exists both idbdata1 and *.idb files, working together?<br />
REgards,<br />
JS</p>
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		<title>By: vlastikw</title>
		<link>http://crazytoon.com/2007/04/03/mysql-ibdata-files-do-not-shrink-on-database-deletion-innodb/comment-page-1/#comment-875</link>
		<dc:creator>vlastikw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 19:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to be even easier: just add that option to my.cnf(my.ini) and run “mysqlcheck -u root --optimize --all-databases” and all your InnoDB tables should be converted to .idb files. Next, I’ll try to remove/unconfigure the ibdata file(s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to be even easier: just add that option to my.cnf(my.ini) and run “mysqlcheck -u root &#8211;optimize &#8211;all-databases” and all your InnoDB tables should be converted to .idb files. Next, I’ll try to remove/unconfigure the ibdata file(s).</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what if I copied or moved all my .ibd files, then

ALTER TABLE tbl_name DISCARD TABLESPACE;

then did a full mysqldump, erased the huge innodb data file, then restored from the dump, then tried to import the .ibd files with

ALTER TABLE tbl_name IMPORT TABLESPACE;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what if I copied or moved all my .ibd files, then</p>
<p>ALTER TABLE tbl_name DISCARD TABLESPACE;</p>
<p>then did a full mysqldump, erased the huge innodb data file, then restored from the dump, then tried to import the .ibd files with</p>
<p>ALTER TABLE tbl_name IMPORT TABLESPACE;</p>
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		<title>By: maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to obtain the data from ibdata1, ib_logfile0 and ib_logfile1?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to obtain the data from ibdata1, ib_logfile0 and ib_logfile1?</p>
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		<title>By: Shahryar Ghazi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shahryar Ghazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>after deleting large number of records or dropping tables you should optimize the tables (to defrag)

any new inserts will be inserted in the empty space made available by the previous drop/delete statements, so I guess there is not need to worry about data file size</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after deleting large number of records or dropping tables you should optimize the tables (to defrag)</p>
<p>any new inserts will be inserted in the empty space made available by the previous drop/delete statements, so I guess there is not need to worry about data file size</p>
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		<title>By: adejo joseph</title>
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		<dc:creator>adejo joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good day sir/ma.i am joseph adejo from nigeria. a student of aptech world wide .i will love to know more about D.B.A becouse i have an interest to pursue it as a career.
please i will need guide lines from you to know how and what to be doing as an upcoming  D.B.A.
              THANKS ADEJO JOSEPH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good day sir/ma.i am joseph adejo from nigeria. a student of aptech world wide .i will love to know more about D.B.A becouse i have an interest to pursue it as a career.<br />
please i will need guide lines from you to know how and what to be doing as an upcoming  D.B.A.<br />
              THANKS ADEJO JOSEPH</p>
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		<title>By: colnector</title>
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		<dc:creator>colnector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read Cory&#039;s note above.
If you use phpMyAdmin you can easily mark the tables you want and choose to optimize them. This&#039;ll clear the extra space abused by the ibd file.
Don&#039;t forget to add innodb_file_per_table in your my.cnf file under [mysqld] section and restart the server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read Cory&#8217;s note above.<br />
If you use phpMyAdmin you can easily mark the tables you want and choose to optimize them. This&#8217;ll clear the extra space abused by the ibd file.<br />
Don&#8217;t forget to add innodb_file_per_table in your my.cnf file under [mysqld] section and restart the server.</p>
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		<title>By: Earnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 14:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank-you; a life saver.  The only issue I has was I needed to add the -p on the import step and enter an empty password.  Well, that, and I nearly ran out of disk space trying to backup the DB.  I&#039;m down from 65% use to 20% used; again thanks for the powerfully helpful page.

Good success to all,
Earnie - http://livingeasynetwork.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank-you; a life saver.  The only issue I has was I needed to add the -p on the import step and enter an empty password.  Well, that, and I nearly ran out of disk space trying to backup the DB.  I&#8217;m down from 65% use to 20% used; again thanks for the powerfully helpful page.</p>
<p>Good success to all,<br />
Earnie &#8211; <a href="http://livingeasynetwork.com" rel="nofollow">http://livingeasynetwork.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brill Pappin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brill Pappin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 23:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It may be the transaction log. See:
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/innodb-multi-versioning.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be the transaction log. See:<br />
<a href="http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/innodb-multi-versioning.html" rel="nofollow">http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/innodb-multi-versioning.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 15:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you can&#039;t delete the ibdata* files because they include innodb&#039;s shared resources, in addition to any tables that might be stored there. if you delete those files, then your tables that you moved to their own files will no longer work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can&#8217;t delete the ibdata* files because they include innodb&#8217;s shared resources, in addition to any tables that might be stored there. if you delete those files, then your tables that you moved to their own files will no longer work.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Along the lines of what &quot;Me&quot; said...  Make the change to my.cnf, restart mysql, but then run a query similar to:
OPTIMIZE NO_WRITE_TO_BINLOG TABLE [table1, table2 ... etc] 

This will optimize all your tables and recreate the ibd files under their respective db directories.

I&#039;m not sure at this point if you could just delete the main ibdata file because I didn&#039;t try.  Anyone else care to give it a shot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Along the lines of what &#8220;Me&#8221; said&#8230;  Make the change to my.cnf, restart mysql, but then run a query similar to:<br />
OPTIMIZE NO_WRITE_TO_BINLOG TABLE [table1, table2 ... etc] </p>
<p>This will optimize all your tables and recreate the ibd files under their respective db directories.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure at this point if you could just delete the main ibdata file because I didn&#8217;t try.  Anyone else care to give it a shot?</p>
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		<title>By: Marijorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marijorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I´ve understood about the procedure above. But I have a question. Can I change the directory of creation  .ibd files? 
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I´ve understood about the procedure above. But I have a question. Can I change the directory of creation  .ibd files?<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 08:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to be even easier: just add that option to my.cnf and run &quot;mysqloptimize --all-databases&quot; and all your InnoDB tables should be converted to .idb files. Next, I&#039;ll try to remove/unconfigure the ibdata file(s).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to be even easier: just add that option to my.cnf and run &#8220;mysqloptimize &#8211;all-databases&#8221; and all your InnoDB tables should be converted to .idb files. Next, I&#8217;ll try to remove/unconfigure the ibdata file(s).</p>
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		<title>By: Dario Souza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dario Souza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better yet, do an ALTER TABLE  ENGINE=InnoDB; directly without converting it to/from myisam. That prevents you from losing foreign key constraints and some datatype conversions (int(12) to int(10) for instance) when you convert it to myisam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better yet, do an ALTER TABLE  ENGINE=InnoDB; directly without converting it to/from myisam. That prevents you from losing foreign key constraints and some datatype conversions (int(12) to int(10) for instance) when you convert it to myisam.</p>
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		<title>By: hiutopor</title>
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		<dc:creator>hiutopor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all! 
 
Very interesting information! Thanks! 
 
G&#039;night</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all! </p>
<p>Very interesting information! Thanks! </p>
<p>G&#8217;night</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Wiegand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Wiegand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 18:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can also do a &#039;ALTER TABLE blah ENGINE=MyISAM; ALTER TABLE blah ENGINE=InnoDB;&#039; and it will effectively recreate the table in InnoDB (although you&#039;ll need to script out any InnoDB features that aren&#039;t supported in MyISAM like foreign keys and reapply then).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can also do a &#8216;ALTER TABLE blah ENGINE=MyISAM; ALTER TABLE blah ENGINE=InnoDB;&#8217; and it will effectively recreate the table in InnoDB (although you&#8217;ll need to script out any InnoDB features that aren&#8217;t supported in MyISAM like foreign keys and reapply then).</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Barber</title>
		<link>http://crazytoon.com/2007/04/03/mysql-ibdata-files-do-not-shrink-on-database-deletion-innodb/comment-page-1/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Barber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worked pretty awesomely!  After restoring the data, I had some issues with authenticating to the server, so I logged in to MySQL and flushed the privileges, then restarted MySQL:

$ mysql -u root -p
Enter password:
mysql&gt; flush privileges;
Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec)
mysql&gt; quit
Bye
$ /etc/init.d/mysql restart

Thanks for the help!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worked pretty awesomely!  After restoring the data, I had some issues with authenticating to the server, so I logged in to MySQL and flushed the privileges, then restarted MySQL:</p>
<p>$ mysql -u root -p<br />
Enter password:<br />
mysql&gt; flush privileges;<br />
Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec)<br />
mysql&gt; quit<br />
Bye<br />
$ /etc/init.d/mysql restart</p>
<p>Thanks for the help!</p>
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